"We thought we were living in a society of the future, showing how people can live together in a way that the human being is not a product of society where you have to put somebody down so that you are up. . . . Suddenly we find] that people want to be more like outside, and we are disappointed.""When people say to me, 'We're so sorry to see what's going on in the kibbutzim because we are losing the most important thing that happened to the State of Israel, ' I say to them, 'Listen . . . .' The government lost interest in the kibbutz movement, and we had to find another way. The State of...