Adrian Medioli after graduating spent 11 years as a senior automation engineer before completing his Ph.D. in Elec. Eng. in 2008 at the University of Newcastle. From 2008-2021 he was employed as a research academic for Complex Dynamic Systems and Control at the University of Newcastle. He is now the automation engineer for Whiteley Corp. Pty. Ltd.Graham Goodwin is Emeritus Laureate Professor, University of Newcastle, Australia. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society, a Foreign Member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences and in 2021 he was awarded the American Control Council John Ragazzini Education Award.